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everyone agrees israel has the right to protect itself, but might it be sometimes that israel's best protection is to not attack? when you think about people in hamas and hezbollah, when they were martyrs when they die during fighting, they go to heaven and get posters of themselves put on the street forever. they want to be martyrs, so whatever attack israel launches, hamas keeps going because they want to die. the person they killed, the head of hamas' military wing was in the midst of considering a cease-fire. he was a person who could have made that happen. so in taking him out, they sort of damaged the potential for a long-term cease-fire. is israel taking a step backwards in being so aggressive here? >> not at all. as a matter of fact, i happen to believe that the narrative of this is that as long as hamas continues to fire terrorist missiles into israel and israel's compelled to retaliate, hamas is setting up the stage for major civilian casualties. it's as if every missile that hamas fires at israel is going to result in almost the suicide of its own people, and that is reall
everyone agrees israel has the right to protect itself, but might it be sometimes that israel's best protection is to not attack? when you think about people in hamas and hezbollah, when they were martyrs when they die during fighting, they go to heaven and get posters of themselves put on the street forever. they want to be martyrs, so whatever attack israel launches, hamas keeps going because they want to die. the person they killed, the head of hamas' military wing was in the midst of...
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fletcher in israel and what's the israeli government saying about what happened at the border today, if anything? >> reporter: well, they are talking but not much. they are saying that the troops were stationed at the border about 300 palestinians came towards the border fence, further than israeli wanted them to go. they have a 300-yard no go area and the palestinians kept coming and approached the fence. the israelis fired warning shots in the air and then the soldiers fired at their legs. that's what the israeli army is saying and they are not confirming they killed anybody. the 300 yard no-go area is there because for years the israelis have been worried that palestinian militants would approach the fence and lay land mines across the fence. that's why the no go area is there. today of course with the cease fire in place, apparently palestinians were testing to see how forward they can go under the new conditions. >> martin fletcher in israel. thank you so much. in gaza, hamas has already condemned the death of the man killed at the border. ayman, has hamas taken action since con
fletcher in israel and what's the israeli government saying about what happened at the border today, if anything? >> reporter: well, they are talking but not much. they are saying that the troops were stationed at the border about 300 palestinians came towards the border fence, further than israeli wanted them to go. they have a 300-yard no go area and the palestinians kept coming and approached the fence. the israelis fired warning shots in the air and then the soldiers fired at their...
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as you mentioned israel stops all military action in israel and hamas stops launching rockets on israel and carrying out border attacks on israeli troops but this is the key thing. there is no signed formal agreement here. instead, israel and hamas reached an understanding, a kind of exchange of quiet for quiet. the first phase of a broader agreement. that should be followed by more intense negotiations, those will be anchored and guaranteed we understand by egypt and the united states. to try to resolve the key demands on both sides. of course, for hamas, the lifting of that 6-year-old blockade of gaza. for israel, it's stopping all the weapons smuggling. but neither will happen immediately. at least, however, they have agreed in principle to these demands and the need to work them out. you had a clip of secretary clinton. she went on to call the cease-fire deal a step in the right direction. she said she looks forward in the days ahead she said to consolidating progress for the people of gaza and israel. and experts are saying that's the key difference here. in previous gaza wars, the
as you mentioned israel stops all military action in israel and hamas stops launching rockets on israel and carrying out border attacks on israeli troops but this is the key thing. there is no signed formal agreement here. instead, israel and hamas reached an understanding, a kind of exchange of quiet for quiet. the first phase of a broader agreement. that should be followed by more intense negotiations, those will be anchored and guaranteed we understand by egypt and the united states. to try...
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clearly throughout israel. but the fact is, you have this densely populated area and people -- civilians dying because they are living, you know, side by side in the same buildings as hamas leaders that you take out? >> that is the fault of hamas. hamas has put its fighters in the very midst of a densely populated area because they not only have a military strategy of trying to kill the maximum number of israeli citizens, they have a media strategy. they want us to fire back at them and if we injure pll civilians or -- palestinian civilians or kill them tragically, they can use that sensationalize, put the pictures on the newspaper and delegitimize us and deny us the right to defend ourselves. if we injure or god forbid kill palestinians for us that's a tragedy. if they kill israelis for them that's a victory. it's completely different set of rules for hamas and for israel. this time, we were able to reduce in this round of fighting -- the last round was in 2008 -- 2009, a higher level of civilian casualties. w
clearly throughout israel. but the fact is, you have this densely populated area and people -- civilians dying because they are living, you know, side by side in the same buildings as hamas leaders that you take out? >> that is the fault of hamas. hamas has put its fighters in the very midst of a densely populated area because they not only have a military strategy of trying to kill the maximum number of israeli citizens, they have a media strategy. they want us to fire back at them and...
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and israel. you is a very different dynamic now and why this is also a very big test to egypt, to its credit, america is allowing egypt to immediate this and so far, egyptian officials say they are not [ inaudible ] a peace treaty with israel. president morsi says he's committed to the international obligations but he's also using his leverage to perhaps rein in hamas. it's not necessarily that hamas feels empowered but now perhaps egypt's president is saying to hamas you also have a responsibility to govern, you can't just fire these rockets indiscriminately and trigger this type of backlash. this isn't only a crossroads for israel and gaza, it has a tremendous amount of implications for egypt and u.s. foreign policy vis-a-vis the new emerging realities of the arab world. >> i want to open this up to our panel in new york. something that has been going on that i don't think has got an ton of coverage, is how the israeli defense ministry is using twitter to sort of talk about what they are doing.
and israel. you is a very different dynamic now and why this is also a very big test to egypt, to its credit, america is allowing egypt to immediate this and so far, egyptian officials say they are not [ inaudible ] a peace treaty with israel. president morsi says he's committed to the international obligations but he's also using his leverage to perhaps rein in hamas. it's not necessarily that hamas feels empowered but now perhaps egypt's president is saying to hamas you also have a...
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they have fought wars with israel on behalf of the palestinians. this cuts deep in the arab identity and simply won't give it up, won't let anyone assume the negotiations on behalf of the palestinians and that's why people have seen this, the rise of the muslim brother hood and particularly the presidency of mohammed morsi as a positive sin to be a break through for the region for stability and for u.s. interests as well. >> we will certainly be following it. all roads lead to cairo. that's been true for hundreds if not thousands of years. ayman mohyeldin thank you for your reporting from gaza. stay safe. >>> after the break, loopholes, brackets, increased revenue. are democrats and republicans ready to come to the table and make a deal? we will talk to luke russert and martin bashir about getting a piece of the tax pie, next on "now." ♪ [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. medicare open enrollment. time to compare plans and costs. you don't have to make changes. but it never hurts to see if you can find better coverage, save money, o
they have fought wars with israel on behalf of the palestinians. this cuts deep in the arab identity and simply won't give it up, won't let anyone assume the negotiations on behalf of the palestinians and that's why people have seen this, the rise of the muslim brother hood and particularly the presidency of mohammed morsi as a positive sin to be a break through for the region for stability and for u.s. interests as well. >> we will certainly be following it. all roads lead to cairo....
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one is israel is a great ally, there's domestic political support for a strong relationship with israel. at the same time it's also supposed to be the kind of neutral arbiter, the mediator in the region that will bring this about. it seems we don't do a good job of playing those two rules. >> well those two roles have also been intentioned, they've grown more intentioned over time. you had eight years of an administration that really gave up on trying to play the arbiter role, at which point the figure leaf kind of came away. the administration did a great job actually tactically, playing both of those roles in a way that they hadn't done at all during the first term, sending the secretary of state out to be the arbiter while the president could give the defender of israel speeches like that that's a tactical solution that doesn't get anywhere near the long-term structural problem that it isn't the same middle east that it was five years ago. what do you do instead? how do you serve the long-term interests of israel, especially when maybe many americans don't see israel's long-term inte
one is israel is a great ally, there's domestic political support for a strong relationship with israel. at the same time it's also supposed to be the kind of neutral arbiter, the mediator in the region that will bring this about. it seems we don't do a good job of playing those two rules. >> well those two roles have also been intentioned, they've grown more intentioned over time. you had eight years of an administration that really gave up on trying to play the arbiter role, at which...
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as ayman said this is the 300 yard no go area israel declared several years ago when israel was worried militants were putting land mines in that area. that's why it's a no go area in that place. so the israelis say they fired warning shots to scare the palestinians away. they fired three times in the air. when that didn't work they -- there was more shooting. the israelis have not confirmed they killed anybody. and they're saying this is no the a cease-fire violation. it's one of the events that have been occurring up and down the border for a long time and they don't see it as part of the cease-fire situation. rather, an attempt to control an unruly palestinian crowd. that's what the israelis are saying. craig? >> nbc's martin fletcher from tel aviv for us this afternoon, thank you much, sir. appreciate that. >>> back here the obama administration continues to try to bring peace to the region. hostilities broke out, president obama dispatched his top diplomat hillary clinton, to calm tensions on wednesday in cairo. she, of course announced that cease-fire standing alongside her egypti
as ayman said this is the 300 yard no go area israel declared several years ago when israel was worried militants were putting land mines in that area. that's why it's a no go area in that place. so the israelis say they fired warning shots to scare the palestinians away. they fired three times in the air. when that didn't work they -- there was more shooting. the israelis have not confirmed they killed anybody. and they're saying this is no the a cease-fire violation. it's one of the events...
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israel wants to deal. if there's no deal, then as they keep saying, all options are still open. >> martin fletcher reporting from tel aviv, thanks so much. >>> we want to bring in our political panel. we have nationally syndicated radio talk show host and msnbc contributor michael and perry bacon, political editor. yes men, great to have you here. it seems that every president in modern times has had to deal with the tensions that flair up within the middle east. they always try to talk about overseeing a long-term cease-fire. as we should on the brink of those discussions right now, between gaza and israel, what is the broader impact of the idea that not only will there be a cease-fire, but the fact that israel's neighbors will verify their right to exist, which is the longer formatted problem? >> well, yeah, i think we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves. i think the first step is to cease hostilities. i think that the state department has already said that's step one for secretary of state clinton's arriva
israel wants to deal. if there's no deal, then as they keep saying, all options are still open. >> martin fletcher reporting from tel aviv, thanks so much. >>> we want to bring in our political panel. we have nationally syndicated radio talk show host and msnbc contributor michael and perry bacon, political editor. yes men, great to have you here. it seems that every president in modern times has had to deal with the tensions that flair up within the middle east. they always try...
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this was just the trial run. >> israel next month. >> israel as well. >> very quickly, mike, because i want to get to this because i was struck by it when we talked about it earlier. a bit about benghazi and susan rice. 97 house republicans sent this letter to president obama. i want to just read a little bit from it. ambassador rice is widely viewed as having willfully or incompetently misled the american public. her actions give u.s. allies and rivals abroad reason to question u.s. commitment and credibility when needed. the president last week in his press conference seemed very gung ho on susan rice. what do you make of the politics of this? as i pointed out to dom and he pointed out, too, 97 house republicans or 250 doesn't matter because this is not a matter for house republicans if he does nominate her. what do you make of the susan rice fight? is it a fight worth having if you're the president of the united states? >> well, look, when i look at the benghazi issue, i see serious issues about security, did we get our understanding of what was going on in libya right? i'm not su
this was just the trial run. >> israel next month. >> israel as well. >> very quickly, mike, because i want to get to this because i was struck by it when we talked about it earlier. a bit about benghazi and susan rice. 97 house republicans sent this letter to president obama. i want to just read a little bit from it. ambassador rice is widely viewed as having willfully or incompetently misled the american public. her actions give u.s. allies and rivals abroad reason to...
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israel threatening to take the next step if if hamas doesn't stop the rocket fire into israel. the next step ground troops moving in. we want to bring in ambassador dennis ross, served as adviser to four presidents and is a mideast diplomacy analyst. it's great to have you with me today. big news coming within the last hour, al jazeera reporting that the ceasefire is going to be announced this evening in cairo. now egypt will reportedly be agreeing to oversee this plan which is said to include an easing of the crossroads into gaza. so peace appears to be eminent but what do you make of the transparency of what the outline of it deal is? >> well, i think we still need to see it implemented. having spent a lot of time in the middle east, done a lot of negotiations, one thing i know about this part of the world, nothing is concluded until you actually see it carried out. it's one thing to talk about it. it's something else to do it. so let's actually see the ceasefire take hold. what i'm hearing is that by midnight their time, which would be around 5:00 our time, that's when it mi
israel threatening to take the next step if if hamas doesn't stop the rocket fire into israel. the next step ground troops moving in. we want to bring in ambassador dennis ross, served as adviser to four presidents and is a mideast diplomacy analyst. it's great to have you with me today. big news coming within the last hour, al jazeera reporting that the ceasefire is going to be announced this evening in cairo. now egypt will reportedly be agreeing to oversee this plan which is said to include...
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i think israel is focused on iran trying to build up the nuclear capability and what israel might feel it has to do to prevent that. the prospect that there would be attacks launched on israel. >> what role of the americans playing? not much evidence of them. >> the role seems to have been marginal. president obama and secretary clinton have been on the phone with world leaders. the channel in cairo is an intelligence channel. there might be american participation. that is not something we would hear about because it does involve participation by a high- level american official weekend see. >> thank you for joining us. >> rebels in colombia have called a truce at the start of peace talks with the government. they have become -- begun the first face-to-face negotiations in a decade aimed at ending conflict. they will also focus on the distribution of land. that was the main reason behind the establishment of fark in the 1960's. the visit lasted only six hours. today president obama made history touching down in burma. after meeting with the nobel peace prize winner, he delivered a messa
i think israel is focused on iran trying to build up the nuclear capability and what israel might feel it has to do to prevent that. the prospect that there would be attacks launched on israel. >> what role of the americans playing? not much evidence of them. >> the role seems to have been marginal. president obama and secretary clinton have been on the phone with world leaders. the channel in cairo is an intelligence channel. there might be american participation. that is not...
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israel. that's where i want to begin this morning. i've got nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell and "new york times" columnist tom friedman. who better to have to discuss this. tom, as the two sides get closer to the brink, based on your experience and reporting, where is this going? >> let's just go around the horn, david, quickly. i think hamas is trying to use this moment to both break out of the blockade and try to end targeted killing of its leaders from israel, and trying to take advantage of the new arab spring balance of power, the muslim brotherhood in egypt, to leverage that possibility. israel. israel has been watching for the last six to nine months hamas bringing in longer and longer range missiles from iran. i think they saw this as an opportunity of necessity to take those out, missiles that can now hit tel aviv and jerusalem. egypt. this is a real problem for egypt. you have a new government there that needs money from the united states. they don't want t
israel. that's where i want to begin this morning. i've got nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell and "new york times" columnist tom friedman. who better to have to discuss this. tom, as the two sides get closer to the brink, based on your experience and reporting, where is this going? >> let's just go around the horn, david, quickly. i think hamas is trying to use this moment to both break out of the blockade and try to end targeted killing of its leaders...
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and israel. here's israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu earlier today. >> the palestinians must recognize the jewish state. and they must be prepared to end the conflict with israel once and for all. none of these vital interests, these vital interests of peace, none of them appear in the resolution that will be put forward before the general assembly today. and that is why israel cannot accept it. >> joining me now to talk more about this, former state department mideast officer joel ruben. also palestinian italian journalist and msnbc contributor willa jabroe. both israel and the u.s. say the resolution violates agreements to solve issues through negotiations which broke down two years ago. on the heels of the recent violent clashes between gaza and israel is now the right time for this vote? >> well, it's a fate acomply that the vote is going to take place. it's been in the works for some time before -- really the bigger issue is how will the parties react after it? there's been a calm re
and israel. here's israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu earlier today. >> the palestinians must recognize the jewish state. and they must be prepared to end the conflict with israel once and for all. none of these vital interests, these vital interests of peace, none of them appear in the resolution that will be put forward before the general assembly today. and that is why israel cannot accept it. >> joining me now to talk more about this, former state department mideast...
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according to israel, this is a house belonging to a senior official of hamas, but at the same time there were 12 people inside of that house, including four women and four children. all of them killed. so many people are condemning that attack. meanwhile, it is nighttime here and the people of gaza are bracing themselves for what could be another night of deadly attacks despite the diplomatic activity in cairo. negotiations are under way as well as palestinian factions as to what to do next, but those here in gaza say they are preparing for a ground invasion, and meaning if israel launches a war, they will fight and they are prepared to defend their territory as they say and on the same side israelis say they have finalized preparation for a ground invasion and now it is a matter of a political decision, and certainly something that everybody in cairo is trying to avert, but one that everybody here thinks it is not going to be averted any time soon. thomas? >> well, you talk about the diplomatic conversations in cairo, and what is on the table? what terms are being discussed? >> well, tw
according to israel, this is a house belonging to a senior official of hamas, but at the same time there were 12 people inside of that house, including four women and four children. all of them killed. so many people are condemning that attack. meanwhile, it is nighttime here and the people of gaza are bracing themselves for what could be another night of deadly attacks despite the diplomatic activity in cairo. negotiations are under way as well as palestinian factions as to what to do next,...
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couldn't agree more or less talk about israel you know a lot of people were talking to you during the lead up to the election the saying well here's the lesser of two evils you have romney who would do. only attack iran and then you have obama who wouldn't attack iran i personally never saw any indication that obama wouldn't attack iran and he said no option was off the table he said that he would draw a hard line he's been catering to netanyahu they've been competing for who can you know cater toward you more so i mean really what do you think about that like just the whole israel situation what do you think should have happened with iran and was there really between the two romney was not going to attack iran if there was an attack on iran it would be either romney or obama does not have it it's not the president who is going to take a decision like that it seems at least in the case of iran because when when romney was talking about iran he was talking about harsher out sanctions just what obama is doing right now i don't think either one of. if he's going to go. to start a war aga
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pushes for a ceasefire, israel says it's ready for a ground war. but first, it's a look at the president's schedule. it's 12 hours ahead in cambodia right now so the president, like most of us, his day is almost over at this point. you see this? oh, let me guess -- more washington gridlock. no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than double. but we depend on our dividends to help pay our bills. we worked hard to save. well, the president and congress have got to work together to stop this dividend tax hike. before it's too late. throughout our lives. one a day women's 50+ is a complete multivitamin designed for women's health concerns as we age. it has more of 7 antioxidants to support cell health. one a day 50+. >>> we are just weeks away from the so-called fiscal cliff, the $500 billion in automatic tax hikes and spending cuts that will take effect at the beginning of 2013. many hurdle
pushes for a ceasefire, israel says it's ready for a ground war. but first, it's a look at the president's schedule. it's 12 hours ahead in cambodia right now so the president, like most of us, his day is almost over at this point. you see this? oh, let me guess -- more washington gridlock. no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than...
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feels right now that obama got reelected we have to mention that under obama's administration israel got more military aid and then under any other administration and they know that they realize that so for them to set the bar even higher wanting you asked to go. to another war just because they think that the red line should be here and there and i think even not yet or himself believes that this is probably too much let's just give it a shot try and if it were out there yeah i don't want to or it doesn't work that it doesn't work it is amazing that the barge continues to be set higher and higher in terms of lobbying the money the military support. let's let's shift to syria i mean r.t. just an exclusive interview with the. assad do you think that obama was waiting for reelection to really deal with syria i mean it's kind of something we can't ignore . the international community kind of has its eyes on the country what do you think's going to happen now that the reelection i think the arab world is divided over this some people say obama's not going to change his policies on syria
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and her egyptian counterpart announced the deal to end hostilities and greater cooperation between israel and gaza in the near future. >> the united states welcomes the agreement today for a cease-fire in gaza, for it to hold, the rocket attacks must end. a broader calm returned. the people of this region deserve the chance to live free from fear and violence and today's agreement is a step in the right direction that we should build on. >> this news comes after more than a week of violence that claimed 140 palestinian and 5 israeli lives. obviously, this day belongs to the israelis and palestinians. but americans should also look at today as proof that we got it right on election day. i want you to take a look at that scene again. that moment lasted just a few minutes. but it represents a week of slow, deliberate diplomacy by the president, secretary clinton and obama's foreign policy team. and a lot of patience. there was no sabre rattling, no caustic words, no cheap shots. for that you needed to turn to the republicans. >> if this god forbid conflict escalates, again, it is a sign of a
and her egyptian counterpart announced the deal to end hostilities and greater cooperation between israel and gaza in the near future. >> the united states welcomes the agreement today for a cease-fire in gaza, for it to hold, the rocket attacks must end. a broader calm returned. the people of this region deserve the chance to live free from fear and violence and today's agreement is a step in the right direction that we should build on. >> this news comes after more than a week of...
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any more than it's in israel's interests. so -- but these are people who have long been in opposition and they're having to learn to balance these political calculations as they go forward. >> right. and there's no rest after election day when you're the active president. p.j. will stay with us as we turn to another discussion right on point with president obama's foreign policy team. many republicans are attacking ambassador susan rice, a top candidate to replace secretary of state clinton. the senate has spiked some key nominations from president obama before, from elizabeth warren to nobel peace prize winner peter diamond. there is one number that suggests obama is likely to win this battle. we will look at the math after the break on "now." so you say men are superior drivers? yeah. then how'd i get this... [ voice of dennis ] ...safe driving bonus check? every six months without an accident, allstate sends a check. ok. [ voice of dennis ] silence. are you in good hands? [ male announcer ] it's that time of year. time for
any more than it's in israel's interests. so -- but these are people who have long been in opposition and they're having to learn to balance these political calculations as they go forward. >> right. and there's no rest after election day when you're the active president. p.j. will stay with us as we turn to another discussion right on point with president obama's foreign policy team. many republicans are attacking ambassador susan rice, a top candidate to replace secretary of state...
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they will consider a cease-fire in israel and their attacks and the siege of gaza. >> israel has bombed building and at least 90 people have been killed and some 700 wounded since the air strikes began. >> the bombardment of gaza continues. israeli defense forces are picking targets they say it are connected to palestinian militants. the billionaire also among the latest casualties. across the border in israel, ground troops are massing in preparations for a possible invasion. israel has no mobilize and 40,000 reservists. elsewhere, diplomats are attempting to broker a ceasefire. in jerusalem, middle east peace envoy tony blair met with perez to stop the rocket attacks. >> it is clear we do not have any ambition to gain an advantage but we just want to stop the fire. >> more than 1000 rockets have been fired from a hamas- controlled gaza into israel. the defense system has stopped most of the rockets and from entering your system, but not all. hamas has two demands, says their exile leader in cairo. israel must under bombardment and they must lift the blockade of the strip. he said it w
they will consider a cease-fire in israel and their attacks and the siege of gaza. >> israel has bombed building and at least 90 people have been killed and some 700 wounded since the air strikes began. >> the bombardment of gaza continues. israeli defense forces are picking targets they say it are connected to palestinian militants. the billionaire also among the latest casualties. across the border in israel, ground troops are massing in preparations for a possible invasion....
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israel is balking at that. it reportedly is saying while it agrees with the principle of lifting the siege eventually, it does not agree with the timing. it wants to postpone it until later, some say until after the elections. >> jim, real quickly, your reporting, you've been able to learn there are reports of security forces in egypt intercepting and seizing smuggled weapons. what more do we know about that? >> reporter: yes. that is correct. it's a vivid example of the problems of post cease fire here because of the possible rearming of hamas. the government did announce today that its security fors caught a group of smugglers with two truckloads of rockets in the northwest part of the country. there were mortars, rpgs, at least two or three dozen rockets. and these were meant either for mill tanls in the sinai or in gaza. and of course israel is trying to seek international guarantees that this kind of activity stoms completely and that is another sticking point. >> jim, the source of those weapons? who are
israel is balking at that. it reportedly is saying while it agrees with the principle of lifting the siege eventually, it does not agree with the timing. it wants to postpone it until later, some say until after the elections. >> jim, real quickly, your reporting, you've been able to learn there are reports of security forces in egypt intercepting and seizing smuggled weapons. what more do we know about that? >> reporter: yes. that is correct. it's a vivid example of the problems of...
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then israel would want to move to a second stage where the two sides, israel and the palestinians, would engage in this discussions, negotiations overs the next two weeks to one month talking about potentially ending the siege on gaza, making it easier for palestinians -- >> and clearly we're having difficulty with richard's reporting. surmounts any difficult of technology. richard is reporting on negotiations in cairo -- amman, you're in gaza as well. negotiations would be a immediate cessation of hostilities and a two-stage process within two weeks to a month there would be a broader agreement. we've known from the start that israel wants to do something about changing the reality where these rocket attacks do not continue to come from gaza. at the same time where you're standing in gaza there's a lot of criticism about the counterfire that's come from israel and the way they've been targeting areas that are very dense civilian areas. >> that's correct. in fact a lot of people have been describing it as two types. one it's a disproportionate use of force and more importantly a form of
then israel would want to move to a second stage where the two sides, israel and the palestinians, would engage in this discussions, negotiations overs the next two weeks to one month talking about potentially ending the siege on gaza, making it easier for palestinians -- >> and clearly we're having difficulty with richard's reporting. surmounts any difficult of technology. richard is reporting on negotiations in cairo -- amman, you're in gaza as well. negotiations would be a immediate...
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israel is a modern, sophisticated, very well equipped military. the palestinian factions fighting it are certainly not equipped with the same kind of equipment and weapons. that creates the dangerous equation of going into a place like gaza. it is urban warfare and with urban warfare comes a spike in civilian casualties. now, there are questions being asked which if you aren't able to suppress the palestinian rocket fire using aerial attacks as we've seen over the past 48, 72 hours, do you need to go in with a ground invasion? and that is what some people here are questioning. is that the only solution in the eyes of the israelis? certainly from a palestinian perspective they'll say they have the ability to fire rockets even beyond a ground invasion as they did in 2008. >> ayman, thanks so much. >>> we take you to washington where high stakes meetings are under way at the white house this hour. and also on the hill. first though to the white house where the president convened a pow-wow minutes ago with congressional leaders there to talk about the
israel is a modern, sophisticated, very well equipped military. the palestinian factions fighting it are certainly not equipped with the same kind of equipment and weapons. that creates the dangerous equation of going into a place like gaza. it is urban warfare and with urban warfare comes a spike in civilian casualties. now, there are questions being asked which if you aren't able to suppress the palestinian rocket fire using aerial attacks as we've seen over the past 48, 72 hours, do you need...
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we're live in israel. that's next. "the daily rundown" will be back in 30 seconds. >>> as we told you, a really busy day on capitol hill. these are live pictures with the senate armed services committee. they're holding a confirmation hearing for general dunford, he was nominated. allen's nomination is on hold. but dunford's nomination is going forward. >>> a barrage of rocket attacks in israel overnight appear to be pushing that region closer to, who knows, hopefully not all all-out war. it could turn into a ground campaign before long. and eman joins me. this all started not just to respond to what had been a slew of attacks by hamas over the border, but they went after a specific hamas leader. tell us more. >> reporter: well, chuck that really depends on who you ask, there's no doubt from the israeli narrative that they felt that a number of rocket attacks coming from gaza into southern israel, that started the response. if you ask those here, it's actually been a continuous attack on the gaza strip. and that ultima
we're live in israel. that's next. "the daily rundown" will be back in 30 seconds. >>> as we told you, a really busy day on capitol hill. these are live pictures with the senate armed services committee. they're holding a confirmation hearing for general dunford, he was nominated. allen's nomination is on hold. but dunford's nomination is going forward. >>> a barrage of rocket attacks in israel overnight appear to be pushing that region closer to, who knows,...
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only a 48-hour truce between israel and hamas. so there's a positive moves ahead going on trying to end this diplomatically. but not everybody is betting on that right now, alex. >> sounds like all the pieces are on the chess board for sure. thank you very much, martin fletcher. >> let's get some perspective on this crisis. joining me is military analyst general mccaffrey. is there a danger this could turn into a larger middle east war? >> no question. i think we're one step shorter of an all out ground operation in the gaza. i don't see how the israelis could top rate continued threat to huge parts of the civilian population. and then in the background, of course, we have the iranians and hezbollah on the lebanese southern border. the israelis are quite vulnerable to these rocket strikes. fit went to all-out war there would be significant israeli losses. >> all right, general, would the u.s. get involved militarily if this does escalate? >> i don't think so. i think the iranians would be loathe to actually start firing their long
only a 48-hour truce between israel and hamas. so there's a positive moves ahead going on trying to end this diplomatically. but not everybody is betting on that right now, alex. >> sounds like all the pieces are on the chess board for sure. thank you very much, martin fletcher. >> let's get some perspective on this crisis. joining me is military analyst general mccaffrey. is there a danger this could turn into a larger middle east war? >> no question. i think we're one step...
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ultimately israel has to find a way to deal with it either on its own or with us. >> israel has talked about a ship that's loaded with rockets potentially heading to gaza. so is there another crisis brewing? where do we stand with the cease-fire, where both sides seem to be testing each other the last few days? >> i believe the cease-fire in fact is going to hold. if you look at all three parties who were involved in it aside from the united states, who i think did play a pivotal role at the end. president morsi, the last thing he needs is for something he brokered to break down. it enhances his power. he has problems on the inside, he doesn't need a problem on the outside. hamas is claiming they had great achievements. if they get back into a conflict with the israelis, there go those achievements. and the israelis obviously want to have calm as well. so i think all three sides have an interest in preserving this. there will be tests from time to time, that's a given. the fact that the iranians will try to get arms in there very quickly is also a given. i think the israelis will act t
ultimately israel has to find a way to deal with it either on its own or with us. >> israel has talked about a ship that's loaded with rockets potentially heading to gaza. so is there another crisis brewing? where do we stand with the cease-fire, where both sides seem to be testing each other the last few days? >> i believe the cease-fire in fact is going to hold. if you look at all three parties who were involved in it aside from the united states, who i think did play a pivotal...
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it shows the truth and that they were not beaten by israel. the fact that they were able to fire rockets into israel even after absorbing 1500 air strikes to them is a success. their bar for success is much lower than israel's bar for success but they believe in their success and that complicates issues not only vis-a-vis israel but internally with the west bank. hamas has shown that it doesn't pay and violence does. >> martin, do leaders want a two state solution or do they refuse to recognize israel's right to exist? >> it's a no and a yes. they do not recognize the right to exist. it's in the hamas charter. it's founded on the belief that israel has no right to exist. that complicates any future peace negotiations and so, be yes, tla complicates it. and it means that hamas will never recognize israel's right to exist. it's possible that they can come to a long-term agreement which allows them to live quietly side by side. that would be the maximum that could come out of these negotiations. >> talk about a stumbling block right out of the st
it shows the truth and that they were not beaten by israel. the fact that they were able to fire rockets into israel even after absorbing 1500 air strikes to them is a success. their bar for success is much lower than israel's bar for success but they believe in their success and that complicates issues not only vis-a-vis israel but internally with the west bank. hamas has shown that it doesn't pay and violence does. >> martin, do leaders want a two state solution or do they refuse to...
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israel's right to defend itself. hillary clinton has met with the palestinian leader weather the egyptian president, with the israeli prime minister but not with hamas. that's going to continue to reverberate in the way that the president has dealings with the arab world going forward from this, and that's what they're looking at as they look forward to the next four years. >> the question, can she get this deal done or push it along. >> and she's dealing with a very different set of players. the playing field has changed dramatically. you have an egypt, tunisia that are no longer in the same position vis-a-vis israel. th then you have turkey, too. that's another sort of wild card where the relationship between israel and turkey deteriorated so much from 2010 to today that, you know, the u.s. really is in a position where they really can't take too many steps back from israel because it's more isolated now than it was even two years ago. so it's a complicated situation. i think that if hillary clinton can navigate it
israel's right to defend itself. hillary clinton has met with the palestinian leader weather the egyptian president, with the israeli prime minister but not with hamas. that's going to continue to reverberate in the way that the president has dealings with the arab world going forward from this, and that's what they're looking at as they look forward to the next four years. >> the question, can she get this deal done or push it along. >> and she's dealing with a very different set...
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we go from there to israel. nbc's martin fletcher is standing by in tel aviv for us. benjamin netanyahu spoke to the media a couple of hours ago. what did he say, martin? >> he said that they were celebrating in gaz a. he said here israel delivered what he called a massive blow against hamas and gaza, destroying much of the military infrastructure, destroying much of their long-range rockets. he said to the israeli people that he believed the truce is lasting for israel at this time. and those are the critical words, at this time. israel is looking with great skepticism at the cease-fire, waiting to see whether rockets resume, if not now, in weeks, months, and hopefully another round will not occur. but that's everybody's expectation. i want to say to what ayman was saying about the declaration of victory in gaza. the path for victory for hamas is very, very low, and the path for victory for israel is very, very high. israel has much higher demands, a complete stop to all rockets firing. >> interesting in the balance you point out there. let me ask you quickly, martin
we go from there to israel. nbc's martin fletcher is standing by in tel aviv for us. benjamin netanyahu spoke to the media a couple of hours ago. what did he say, martin? >> he said that they were celebrating in gaz a. he said here israel delivered what he called a massive blow against hamas and gaza, destroying much of the military infrastructure, destroying much of their long-range rockets. he said to the israeli people that he believed the truce is lasting for israel at this time. and...
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how the government there israel is also telling us. and we have heard this from the military spokesperson and they are considering a ground war and have not given the go ahead for that. they are preparing but they are firing from the air. and we know that they have been firing from the sea. their ships anchored off of the sea there firing into gaza and according to residents there, that we spoke with, they say it seemed as if it was raining bombs in gaza. you can see the firing there. there is real concern here that there will be a full-scale war something like you saw in 2008 during the operation the cast led >> they said quote we recommend no hamas operatives show their faces above ground. do you think this renewed violence is the beginning of a much bigger conflict? >> i think at this point it is very hard to know. i'm in cairo right now. what is striking from this point of view, this is the moment we have been waiting for. here we have been waiting for a moment when a crisis would come again. how will this government respond. this
how the government there israel is also telling us. and we have heard this from the military spokesperson and they are considering a ground war and have not given the go ahead for that. they are preparing but they are firing from the air. and we know that they have been firing from the sea. their ships anchored off of the sea there firing into gaza and according to residents there, that we spoke with, they say it seemed as if it was raining bombs in gaza. you can see the firing there. there is...
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on the palestinian side, put israel on the map. if you can't find israel on a map in any palestinian textbooks, you can find palestinian maps that show settlements but you cannot find israel on a map. put israel on a map. the second step would be to stop the incitement. when a square is named and a local town, let the palestinian authority not celebrate someone who killed israelis. start talking about two states for two people and acknowledged there is a jewish connection to the land. you don't have to go beyond that but acknowledged that israel does not undercut palestinian claims. it acknowledges the reality that you recognize the israeli flights. condition your people for peace. i will quote arafat - he always said he is not asking for the moon. i am asking to take the template and say that we have hard decisions to make. the fifth step -- about five or six years ago it was said -- where does it say the palestinians have to live in squalid conditions? he was getting at the refugee camps. it did not actually happened. you don't h
on the palestinian side, put israel on the map. if you can't find israel on a map in any palestinian textbooks, you can find palestinian maps that show settlements but you cannot find israel on a map. put israel on a map. the second step would be to stop the incitement. when a square is named and a local town, let the palestinian authority not celebrate someone who killed israelis. start talking about two states for two people and acknowledged there is a jewish connection to the land. you don't...
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palestinian officials believe he may have been poisoned by israel. a claim israel denies. he died in paris in 2004, a month after falling suddenly ill at his west bank compound. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. >>> the high financial cost of hurricane sandy is coming into focus. new york has requested $42 billion in aid and new jersey officials estimate they suffered at least $29 billion in losses, bringing the total of $71 billion in the two hardest hit states. sandy was in some ways worse than hurricane katrina, citing the high economic cost and property destruction. meanwhile, a top executive and a trustee for the power company have resigned in the wake of the company's slow response in getting power back to new yorkers on long island. >>> here's a look at some of the other stories topping the news right now. a fast-moving storm system sweeping through the mid-atlantic this morning bringing a wet mixture of rain and snow. the storm is expected to put down 1
palestinian officials believe he may have been poisoned by israel. a claim israel denies. he died in paris in 2004, a month after falling suddenly ill at his west bank compound. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. >>> the high financial cost of hurricane sandy is coming into focus. new york has requested $42 billion in aid and new jersey officials estimate they suffered at...
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what does israel want? israel wants hamas to stop firing rockets, especially the long-range rockets, at their populations. certainly there's a good exchange there. but what it's going to take is egyptians or somebody, egyptians are going to be it, providing the security and the guarantees on such an agreement. that's very hard for the egyptians to do. they don't want to be responsible for gaza. so we're going to have to provide -- somebody is going to have to provide inducement for them to do so. i think that's the broad outlines of a cease-fire. a long-term cease-fire. i think it's very doable. >> think about the implications of that. it means the good exchange he talks about is israel stops doing what's legal and that is a blockade and killing terrorists, in exchange for hamas stop doing a double war crime. that's not the way the world should operate. >> let's talk about what is in israel's benefit. what is in israel's benefit and what is the alternative shimon peres was asking about was recognizing they
what does israel want? israel wants hamas to stop firing rockets, especially the long-range rockets, at their populations. certainly there's a good exchange there. but what it's going to take is egyptians or somebody, egyptians are going to be it, providing the security and the guarantees on such an agreement. that's very hard for the egyptians to do. they don't want to be responsible for gaza. so we're going to have to provide -- somebody is going to have to provide inducement for them to do...
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but israel says it's not a done deal just yet. in a few hours secretary of state hillary clinton is expected to arrive in jerusalem. we'll get live reports from that region. plus, the israeli ambassador to the u.s. and "time" magazine's jim frederick all join me live in moments. oderate to severe plaque psoriasis. i decided enough is enough. ♪ [ spa lady ] i started enbrel. it's clinically proven to provide clearer skin. [ rv guy ] enbrel may not work for everyone -- and may not clear you completely, but for many, it gets skin clearer fast, within 2 months, and keeps it clearer up to 9 months. [ male announcer ] because enbrel®, etanercept, suppresses your immune system, it may lower your ability to fight infections. serious, sometimes fatal, events including infections, tuberculosis, lymphoma, other cancers, and nervous system and blood disorders have occurred. before starting enbrel, your doctor should test you for tuberculosis and discuss whether you've been to a region where certain fungal infections are common. don't start
but israel says it's not a done deal just yet. in a few hours secretary of state hillary clinton is expected to arrive in jerusalem. we'll get live reports from that region. plus, the israeli ambassador to the u.s. and "time" magazine's jim frederick all join me live in moments. oderate to severe plaque psoriasis. i decided enough is enough. ♪ [ spa lady ] i started enbrel. it's clinically proven to provide clearer skin. [ rv guy ] enbrel may not work for everyone -- and may not...
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israel approves thousands of new settlements in the west bank. plus texas senator elect ted cruz not even sworn in yet, but he's already fueling speculation of a 2016 run. just one of the things that we thought you should know. anncr: some politicians seem to think medicare and... social security are just numbers in a budget. well, we worked hard for those benefits. we earned them. and if washington tries to cram decisions about the future... of these programs into a last minute budget deal... we'll all pay the price. aarp is fighting to protect seniors with responsible... solutions that strengthen medicare and... social security for generations to come. we can do better than a last minute deal... that would hurt all of us. is bigger than we think ... sometimelike the flu.fer from with aches, fever and chills- the flu's a really big deal. so why treat it like it's a little cold? there's something that works differently than over-the-counter remedies. prescription tamiflu attacks the flu virus at its source. so don't wait. call your doctor right a
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remember, in israel to be a prime minister, you have to have lost as prime minister once. back here at home, congresswoman shelly capito will announce she is running for the seat held by jay rockefeller. capito's bid could put pressure on rockefeller who is 75 years old. he has indicated so far that he does plan to run again in 2014. there's always been speculation, though, that he may decide to retire. it's a big issue for senate democrat in 2014. a lot of veteran senators up like rockefeller, tom harkin, baucus, guys there three, four, five terms. the u.s. supreme court will decide whether it should consider legalizing gay marriage nationwide. there are several cases they could hear, some challenging the federal defense of marriage act, one prop 8 and another case in arizona that could legalize it nationwide, banning it nationwide, or continue the current state laws. the question is how many of these cases do they take? do they roll them all into one? that's what we'll hopefully find out this week and, finally, after a failed senate bid, represe representative todd akin
remember, in israel to be a prime minister, you have to have lost as prime minister once. back here at home, congresswoman shelly capito will announce she is running for the seat held by jay rockefeller. capito's bid could put pressure on rockefeller who is 75 years old. he has indicated so far that he does plan to run again in 2014. there's always been speculation, though, that he may decide to retire. it's a big issue for senate democrat in 2014. a lot of veteran senators up like rockefeller,...
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israel intercepted them. an earlier hamas rocket hit a home. >>> ban ki moon will arrive for talks on a cease fire. arab league delegation is set to arrive in gaza on tuesday. let's go to israel. we have a live report from tel aviv. when did you last hear the warning sirens? has it been quite since the one we heard with you an hour ago? >> it was a little over an hour ago and the second time the city heard the sirens. two were fired from gaza heading to tel aviv and they were intercepted by israel's iron dome missile defense system. this is a system the israeli defense forces have been using with great success over the last five days. they say they have shot down or intercepted a third of the rockets that have been lobbied from gaza toward israel. today was no exception. we saw that in the night sky here in tel aviv. >> okay. any update on the cease fire talks that you can report, stephanie? >> at the moment, we know they are underway in cairo. egypt is leading them and you have representatives from the pales
israel intercepted them. an earlier hamas rocket hit a home. >>> ban ki moon will arrive for talks on a cease fire. arab league delegation is set to arrive in gaza on tuesday. let's go to israel. we have a live report from tel aviv. when did you last hear the warning sirens? has it been quite since the one we heard with you an hour ago? >> it was a little over an hour ago and the second time the city heard the sirens. two were fired from gaza heading to tel aviv and they were...